capeandcowl | [fourth turn] [voice, translated from Japanese]

[fourth turn] [voice, translated from Japanese]

Hey, so.

There's... something one of my old teachers taught me about a year ago that I wanted to see the different perspectives on. There's probably plenty of ways to word it that are better than this, but just bare with me. This is the way he put it, anyway.

So, there's a piece of trash on the ground, and there are two people. One notices the trash, but doesn't pick it up, while the other doesn't notice it at all, and therefore doesn't pick it up either. Who's more at fault?

((OOC: And he'll probably argue whatever stance people take just to get people thinking, unless it's some extraordinarily deep, thoughtful answer or something. 8D))

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The one who noticed and didn't pick it up. But they both are, and the person who dropped it in the first place to leave other people to clean up after him.

Heh, I think all the mixed answers are interesting. Seems everyone can agree that whoever caused the problem is also at fault, though, haha.

Though, can ignorance ever be a bigger issue than just the selfish dismissal of a problem?

Yeah, but if you don't recognize something's there, you can't fix it. If you know it's there and you choose not to fix it, it's inexcusable. Unless you reached down and the trash said it didn't want help.

Heh, that is true. I can't imagine a problem would say it didn't want help, unless it was a sentient and stubborn problem.

...I guess if the problem was a person, maybe.

That is one way to look at it. I think, though, ignorance can also be a problem if something goes unnoticed for too long, and then becomes uncontrollable. When that happens, any efforts to fix it would be too little too late.

It works the same with people, sometimes. [doesn't sound too thrilled about that either]

Well, yeah, I'd probably get pissed at anyone who told me they just didn't know. But I'd more annoyed with the people who knew and could have done something and didn't.

Yeah... I can definitely agree with that.

Initially, to tell the truth, I probably would be too. But considering I've had personal experiences with both the ignorant and the selfish in serious issues, it'd probably even out and wind up becoming me pissed at both of them equally. That's just me, though.

I've dealt with both too. I've just dealt more with the ones who see the problem and don't do anything about it or make it worse.

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[voice: Japanese] /equates the whole problem to NDC & Satellite...

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