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[ioudas]

❝ the lord will fulfill his purpose for me; your steadfast love, o lord, endures forever. do not forsake the work of your hands. ❞

psalms

do you actually believe that, though? do you believe in destiny or do you believe that it is our own? discuss.

also, since we're having a deep conversation. google would have made my life a whole lot easier if it had existed in the 1800s. then again there would not be young men saying that they love vintage victorian erotica more than the mainstream kind (here's a hint: it's still erotica).

if you're a really old guy wearing a hood over your head, you owe me a saturday night for the one you ruined. cash only.

(ooc: sorry, this got really NSFW)

Comments

voice

[jupiterson]

Sometimes the future is set, and you have a destiny to meet. If it's important enough to be prophesied, I think it's worth more than doing things on my own terms.

voice

[ioudas]

Maybe so, kid.

voice

[jupiterson]

What do you think? You're good at asking questions. Where are your own answers?

voice

[ioudas]

I don't have any, if I can be honest. That's why I'm asking you.

voice

[jupiterson]

So you don't have any opinion at all?

Come on. You must at least have a bias, one way or the other.

voice

[ioudas]

I don't have an opinion, I was trying to form one.

voice

[jupiterson]

Have you never felt like there was anything you were meant to do?

voice

[ioudas]

We're all meant to do things, life gets in the way though.

voice

[jupiterson]

[ He laughs at that. ]

If life prevents you, then maybe you weren’t meant to. I think that’s kind of how I think of fate.

What do you think you’re meant to do?

voice

[ioudas]

So, two people who are in love and have plans to get married and grow old together. Start a family together. Die together. One of them gets murdered, brutally. Is that destiny? Or is it a random set of events put into motion the moment that someone learned to kill?

I'm meant to lie around and do nothing.

voice

[jupiterson]

If you’re asking me? I’d call it destiny. I don’t think there’s anything anyone does that’s not part of their fate.

You might intend not to do much with your life, but…fate might have a problem with that. It looks to me like it does, since you ended up here.

voice

[ioudas]

Then your life is sad if it's meant to be so tragic.

voice

[jupiterson]

Sometimes life is.

voice

[ioudas]

If that's what you think life should be, you're not living it right.

voice

[jupiterson]

Life isn't an ideal. I'm talking about how it is, not how it should be. If you live expecting everything's going to be perfect, you're going to live with disappointment.

voice

[ioudas]

We're allowed to dream and wish, without that, it's just monotonous.

voice

[jupiterson]

Dreams and wishes aren’t the same as expectations.

voice

[ioudas]

They should be.

voice

[jupiterson]

Some things aren’t possible no matter how much you wish for them. Knowing that isn’t about believing in fate or having faith. It’s just something everyone finds out as they grow up.

[ So why do you still think that way, Cross? ]

voice

[ioudas]

Your life is making me want to drink.

voice

[jupiterson]

How do you know yours is any different? Maybe the only difference is that I know fate has its hand in mine, and you don’t.

voice

[ioudas]

My life is my life. What I choose to do with it, regardless whether or not fate has dictated where it ends up, is mine to ruin.

voice

[jupiterson]

[ A pause. ]

And that’s how you think of it, as a ruin?

voice

[ioudas]

It's yours to do whatever you want with.

voice

[jupiterson]

So, you want it to be a ruin.

[ Geez, Cross. You remind him of Spike. Why do all of these people seem to think so poorly of themselves? ]